Hi Everyone:

No one really chimed in on the 2008 LD/Fun series proposal; specifically, although there were two mails about not changing anything related to the weight limit. And others about a formula for Real Fleet Series weight modification which I absatin on.

So specific to the Long Distance Fun Series and about not changing anything related to the weight limit. Okay; for any race the fleet traditionally has raced at limit.

So this Long Distance Fun Series proposal still includes the no weight limit and low point scoring except for races that by tradition the Real Fleet Series has always be done at weight limit. Outside tradition its probably a PHRF race suggestion thus open limit. So, the Real Fleet Series racers seem to like Vallejo at weight limit. No problem. Except perhaps downwind on Saturday.

And because no serious campaign does the Delta Ditch at weight limit; no problem. Or the Monterey Spinnaker run at weight limit; no problem. Or, the Windjammer at weight limit. Or any double handed race. No problem. We can do all these races at weight limit.

So this mail is a second draft of the Long Distance Fun proposal recognizing its easier to go with the flow on weight limit for what has been. However, per this refined proposal as a subset only within the total set or races which defines this LD FUN Series schedule within the framework of this proposal's innovations.

And again those innovations for thew LD/Fun Seires are 1) no wieght limit for the superset of the total schedule. And, 2) scored both ways for the Real Fleet Series (by tradition and by low point) where the LD/Fun series might duplicate some of the Real Fleet Series schedule.

Again, these open rules are to make it easier to get a cast of crew to do the races. And, to level the playing field by leveling the scoring system.

Subsequently, I withdraw the suggestion that LD Fun Series get first pick of the party races to meet the strategy of picking known events with functions after race. Although this next generation LD Fun Series proposal still attempts to get those in where possible.

As mentioned in a prior mail, the three long ocean races; Monterey, Coastal and Windjammers have been dropped off as priorities to encourage participation. Although, the Windjammers is still shown here. As is the Spinnaker Cup. And if LD/Fun Series racers overwelmingly want to do them; I agree.

Otherwise here's the second draft proposal of apprioximately 1 race per month; except July where there are 2 races:

1/26 Three Bridge; SSS doublehanded -

2/23 Corinthian Midwinters Saturday Only; dinner/dance (I'll arrange a one day entry fee) -

3/22 Crewed Lightship OYRA - (I'll call YRA about a three race package or 4 race package with Vallejo)

4/5 Double handed Farallones BAMA -

5/3-4 Vallejo Race dinner/dance -

(Note that the Spinnaker Run is 5/24-25 or 5/31-6/1; I'd do it as the primary May race if the series participants commited to it and would drop Ditch Run. Spinnaker is the truer long distance race.)

6/2 Ditch Run; dinner

or

6/9 Drakes Bay; raft up (I like this race over Ditch Run as well.)

7/5 Midnight Moonlight; bars open to 1:45 am, breakfast next moring

or

7/19-20 Plastic Classic; partyfest

7/21 Half Moon Bay OYRA; barbeque at HMBYC - (Here I'm advocating HMBay as the months priority pick of two races. Then, pick one of the other July races for two races thist month. Midnight is the Long Distance choice. Plastic Classic is the party choice.

or

7/26 Second Half Opener; food court & pool. (I'm not necessarily advocating this pick and would leave it to the Real Fleet Series because its much funer to race to Half Moon Bay and cruise abck the next day.

The real Long Distance races this month are Midnight Moonlight or the Half Moon Bay Race, or the Farallons first weekend in August)

8/2 Farralones; OYRA

8/16 Half Moon Bay double handed. (Here's a second chance to race to HMB is an easy to administer format. This means dropping HMB in July and choosing two races from the three other July choices; Midnight, Plastic Classic, Second Half Saturday only)

9/1 Windjammers 9/1; barbeque.

or

9/13 East Bay to Estuary doublehanded.

10/26 - Great Pumpkin Sunday Only (I put this RYC back in to have an October race; but would be fine with finishing the 2008 LD/Fun series with the Septermber Races.

I hope to get some inputs into what I hope is seen as well though out LD/Fun proposal geared to gain a consensus within the innovative frameowrk of the proposal.

mb.

:: With the exception of the long pause after Nationals, I
:: kinda liked the variety of races on this year's regular
:: schedule. I also liked that half the races counted for
:: both series. For myself, it'll be a few seasons before I
:: can return to a full weekend of racing, so it's nice to
:: see a large contingent of Expresses in the PHRF/L.D.
:: events. Hopefully, that will be the same even if we go
:: to a smaller number of mostly buoy events for the
:: regular schedule.
::
:: :: I agree with this completely. I would only add the Ditch
:: :: run in June as it is a well attended event and lots of
:: :: fun.
:: ::

:: :: -Jason

:: ::
:: :: :: Perhaps something along these lines:
:: :: ::

:: :: :: - Three Bridge Fiasco (January)
:: :: :: - Spring Keel (March)
:: :: :: - Resin Regatta (April)
:: :: :: - Elite Keel (May)
:: :: :: - PCCs (July)
:: :: :: - Nationals (September)

:: :: ::