Hi Dan:

Thanks for pointing out question 6 for LD/Fun weight limit mod. I still believe in that modification having sailed the series consistenly for two of its three seasons. Its easier to get crew and actually DO all the races.

And, reporting on the current tally for LD/FUN weight mod; 3 for mod, 1 abstain, 13 against. Question?

Of those 13, how many have actually focused, and have reference on that series? I know its not 13. However, certainly four.

For the other nine, that don't have reference from a LD/FUN Series consistent focus, think about it. Its easier to race consistenly in a series that doesn't necesarily require the perfect crew work like round the bouys, nor the weight limit for easily getting crew from a cast fo crew.

And if you want to level the scoring field, define one that does not encourage series hoppers.

Dan I suggest you add the question for open weight in races where e27s must race against PHRF racers too. Thanks.

I have no problem at racing below weight Vallejo Saturday and at weight Sunday. mb

:: Dan,

:: Thank you for putting this together and all your hard
:: work. I believe that this will give the fleet a much
:: needed and better understanding of the events we want to
:: see schedule.

:: Again thanks so much

:: Cheers

:: Chris (Ergo)
::
::
::
:: :: Mike,
:: ::
:: :: First off, thanks for all of your efforts to rejuvenate
:: :: the LD/Fun series, as you know I'm a big fan of those
:: :: races.
:: ::
:: :: Question 6 in the survey specifically asks what weight
:: :: limit folks would like to use for just the LD/Fun
:: :: series. Currently, the tally is 3 votes for no weight
:: :: limit, 1 vote for a modified weight limit, and 13 votes
:: :: to keep it at 880.
:: ::
:: :: The missing options for LD/Fun events is my fault. I was
:: :: going from memory and missed a few. There is the option
:: :: for folks to select "other" and write in what they'd
:: :: like included. So far, the write in options include
::
:: :: CYC Saturday MidWinter race in February, double handed
:: :: or fully crewed half moon bay race, SSS In the Bay,
:: :: Plastic Classic, 2nd half oyra season, IYC dblehand
:: :: lightship, Trans Tahoe, Spinnker Cup, and High Sierra.
:: ::
:: :: Dan
:: ::
:: ::
:: :: :: Hi:
:: :: ::
:: :: :: Just writing to ask for a slight rewrite of the
:: :: :: questionaire before a lot of votes come in. That is due
:: :: :: to the the limter placed in the first question having to
:: :: :: do with the weight limits modification, or not.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: I have proposed for the 2008 LD/FUN series that there's
:: :: :: no weight limit for the PHRF events certainly.
:: :: :: Currently, the questionaire does not address this rule
:: :: :: modifcation for the LD/FUN series only. Subsequently
:: :: :: disregards this potential in the voting placing focus
:: :: :: solely on the weight limit, or not, in the Real Fleet
:: :: :: Series.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: Dan, can you please get a tally on this weight
:: :: :: modification try out for the LD/FUN series specifically;
:: :: :: by adding the question. Thanks.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: Also, I had proposed some LD/FUN race chioces not
:: :: :: reflected in the August and September time frame voting
:: :: :: list. These include Plastic Classic (a low priority for
:: :: :: me but a choice left out), the OYRA HalfMoon Bay Race,
:: :: :: the OYRA Farallons Race, and the doublehanded Half Moon
:: :: :: Bay race. All potentially are LD/FUN easy to administer
:: :: :: choices for the late summer time frame; in addition to
:: :: :: those noted.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: Finally, I would like to reiterate a point I've
:: :: :: previosuly made about not homogenizing the two series
:: :: :: together through race duplication. And that is because I
:: :: :: think the two series should enable the potential for
:: :: :: more trophy winners at the end of the season; than
:: :: :: fewer.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: For Real Fleet Series racers this might mean sailing in
:: :: :: a few more LD/FUN series races.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: Thats because there seems to be an odd trend, to win
:: :: :: both series by focusing on the Real Fleet Series and
:: :: :: then doing a couple of the highly particpted LD/FUN
:: :: :: races. I think thats an off strategy that discourages
:: :: :: participation and more trophy winners at the end of the
:: :: :: season.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: Also a restraint within the framework development of the
:: :: :: Real Fleet Series too adversely affect this skewed
:: :: :: outcome into the LD/FUN Series; by limiting LD/FUN
:: :: :: within the Real Fleet Series framework.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: This is why I originally proposed that each series
:: :: :: should stand on its own races. Right now lacking these
:: :: :: voting form added choices, the development framework
:: :: :: seems to slip back toward this LD/FUN series restraint
:: :: :: that deemphasies the LD/FUN Series for those most
:: :: :: interested in that series.
:: ::
:: :: :: mb
:: :: :: :: So far the following 16 boats have filled in the survey.
:: :: :: :: The more responses we get the better.
:: :: :: ::
:: :: :: :: Thanks
:: :: :: ::
:: :: :: :: Ergo, OPA!, Dianne, Moxie, Baffett, Wile E Coyote, Magic
:: :: :: :: Bus, Get Happy!!, Xena, New Wave, Peaches, Motorcycle
:: :: :: :: Irene, wetsu, Strega, Archimedes, and Desperado
:: :: :: ::
:: :: :: ::
:: :: :: ::
:: :: :: ::
:: :: :: :: :: We are trying to gather input on the 2008 Season. Please
:: :: :: :: :: fill out the survey at the link below.
:: :: :: :: ::
:: :: :: :: :: http://freeonlinesurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=3asu66y8vxk54ei...