I like that approach with everyone chiming in for events of the
Month. - Joe B.
:: Hi Everyone:
::
:: Keep sending those ideas in on the LD/Fun Series.
::
:: As a method for sorting out the races for this series,
:: I'll break out choices by month/thread.
::
:: So, on the board, you will see 10 or so threads, each
:: will be by month; Jan, Feb, etc. From that thread, one
:: input (dialogue) box as it were per month, will include
:: the race possibilities for that month and some
:: explaination why that race makes sense.
::
:: Where there is agreement on the race suggestion; just
:: say agree.
::
:: Where there is not agreement or another suggestion; make
:: it.
::
:: This way we can sort out monthly race choices to form a
:: race consensus for that month. Some months will be easy.
:: Others may be more dificult to form consensus on and
:: this will become readily apparent from the inputs.
::
:: Subsequently, we'll all know where we need to spend some
:: time considering the race choices. I believe this method
:: onfinputting into the board is a good one, say over a
:: confernce call, because there is plenty of time to think
:: about the schedule. No one has to be rushed.
::
:: So, I hope this method will indicate where there is
:: agreement on LD/Fun Series choices, few of which are
:: revolutionary, except for the rule mods; no weight limit
:: given some PHRF content & low point score system for
:: leveling playing field. And, at the very least we;ll be
:: able to come to consensus on the race schedule itself.
::
:: For example, in January, I doubt there will be
:: disagreement on the 3 Bridge for LD/Fun. Other than
:: anyone's bold suggestion not to do it gvien the
:: (wind/tide) fisaco potential.
::
:: For February, there is not much choice for the LD/Fun
:: proposal which currenlty aims fo one race per month
:: except for two each in the July/August timeframe.
::
:: For February I've suggested Corinthian Saturday only.
:: This suggestion for the first/second event of the year;
:: a dinner dance. How novel. Chime in on what you think in
:: the dialogue box I will set up on the board.
::
:: For March, May, June, I've suggested basically a race
:: per month.
::
:: For July/August, given the number of choices, there will
:: undoubtedly be some consensus building here.
:: With this method I believe we have plenty of time to
:: build, second, ratify a schedule for the 2008 LD/FUN
:: series using dialogue boxes on this board.
::
:: I'll set it up this weekend.
::
:: mb
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:: :: Since I'll be primarily a one-day event participant for
:: :: the next few years, I'll be gravitating toward the Long
:: :: Distance Series. And regardless of weight limit, PHRF,
:: :: class or non-class, regular or long season, I like &
:: :: have participated in 95% of these during my short 3-year
:: :: ownership.
:: ::
:: :: 3 bridge
::
:: :: Crewed Lightship
::
:: :: Vallejo
::
:: :: In-the-Bay
::
:: :: East Bay Estuary
::
:: :: Second Half Opener
::
:: :: Great Pumpkin
:: ::
:: :: Did enjoy the Plastic Classic and would vote for it on
:: :: the LD series. The Delta Ditch sounds great, but keep
:: :: missing it every year.
:: ::
:: :: Joe B.
:: ::
:: ::
:: ::
:: :: :: Hi Everyone:
:: :: ::
:: :: :: No one really chimed in on the 2008 LD/Fun series
:: :: :: proposal; specifically, although there were two mails
:: :: :: about not changing anything related to the weight limit.
:: :: :: And others about a formula for Real Fleet Series weight
:: :: :: modification which I absatin on.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: So specific to the Long Distance Fun Series and about
:: :: :: not changing anything related to the weight limit. Okay;
:: :: :: for any race the fleet traditionally has raced at limit.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: So this Long Distance Fun Series proposal still includes
:: :: :: the no weight limit and low point scoring except for
:: :: :: races that by tradition the Real Fleet Series has always
:: :: :: be done at weight limit. Outside tradition its probably
:: :: :: a PHRF race suggestion thus open limit.
:: ::
:: :: :: So, the Real Fleet Series racers seem to like Vallejo at
:: :: :: weight limit. No problem. Except perhaps downwind on
:: :: :: Saturday.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: And because no serious campaign does the Delta Ditch at
:: :: :: weight limit; no problem. Or the Monterey Spinnaker run
:: :: :: at weight limit; no problem. Or, the Windjammer at
:: :: :: weight limit. Or any double handed race. No problem. We
:: :: :: can do all these races at weight limit.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: So this mail is a second draft of the Long Distance Fun
:: :: :: proposal recognizing its easier to go with the flow on
:: :: :: weight limit for what has been. However, per this
:: :: :: refined proposal as a subset only within the total set
:: :: :: or races which defines this LD FUN Series schedule
:: :: :: within the framework of this proposal's innovations.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: And again those innovations for thew LD/Fun Seires are
:: :: :: 1) no wieght limit for the superset of the total
:: :: :: schedule. And, 2) scored both ways for the Real Fleet
:: :: :: Series (by tradition and by low point) where the LD/Fun
:: :: :: series might duplicate some of the Real Fleet Series
:: :: :: schedule.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: Again, these open rules are to make it easier to get a
:: :: :: cast of crew to do the races. And, to level the playing
:: :: :: field by leveling the scoring system.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: Subsequently, I withdraw the suggestion that LD Fun
:: :: :: Series get first pick of the party races to meet the
:: :: :: strategy of picking known events with functions after
:: :: :: race. Although this next generation LD Fun Series
:: :: :: proposal still attempts to get those in where possible.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: As mentioned in a prior mail, the three long ocean
:: :: :: races; Monterey, Coastal and Windjammers have been
:: :: :: dropped off as priorities to encourage participation.
:: :: :: Although, the Windjammers is still shown here. As is the
:: :: :: Spinnaker Cup. And if LD/Fun Series racers overwelmingly
:: :: :: want to do them; I agree.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: Otherwise here's the second draft proposal of
:: :: :: apprioximately 1 race per month; except July where there
:: :: :: are 2 races:
:: :: ::
:: :: :: 1/26 Three Bridge; SSS doublehanded -
:: :: ::
:: :: :: 2/23 Corinthian Midwinters Saturday Only; dinner/dance
:: :: :: (I'll arrange a one day entry fee) -
:: :: ::
:: :: :: 3/22 Crewed Lightship OYRA - (I'll call YRA about a
:: :: :: three race package or 4 race package with Vallejo)
:: :: ::
:: :: :: 4/5 Double handed Farallones BAMA -
:: :: ::
:: :: :: 5/3-4 Vallejo Race dinner/dance -
:: :: ::
:: :: :: (Note that the Spinnaker Run is 5/24-25 or 5/31-6/1; I'd
:: :: :: do it as the primary May race if the series participants
:: :: :: commited to it and would drop Ditch Run. Spinnaker is
:: :: :: the truer long distance race.)
:: :: ::
:: :: :: 6/2 Ditch Run; dinner
:: :: ::
:: :: :: or
:: :: ::
:: :: :: 6/9 Drakes Bay; raft up (I like this race over Ditch Run
:: :: :: as well.)
:: :: ::
:: :: :: 7/5 Midnight Moonlight; bars open to 1:45 am, breakfast
:: :: :: next moring
:: :: ::
:: :: :: or
:: :: ::
:: :: :: 7/19-20 Plastic Classic; partyfest
:: :: ::
:: :: :: 7/21 Half Moon Bay OYRA; barbeque at HMBYC - (Here I'm
:: :: :: advocating HMBay as the months priority pick of two
:: :: :: races. Then, pick one of the other July races for two
:: :: :: races thist month. Midnight is the Long Distance choice.
:: :: :: Plastic Classic is the party choice.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: or
:: :: ::
:: :: :: 7/26 Second Half Opener; food court & pool. (I'm not
:: :: :: necessarily advocating this pick and would leave it to
:: :: :: the Real Fleet Series because its much funer to race to
:: :: :: Half Moon Bay and cruise abck the next day.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: The real Long Distance races this month are Midnight
:: :: :: Moonlight or the Half Moon Bay Race, or the Farallons
:: :: :: first weekend in August)
:: :: ::
:: :: :: 8/2 Farralones; OYRA
:: :: ::
:: :: :: 8/16 Half Moon Bay double handed. (Here's a second
:: :: :: chance to race to HMB is an easy to administer format.
:: :: :: This means dropping HMB in July and choosing two races
:: :: :: from the three other July choices; Midnight, Plastic
:: :: :: Classic, Second Half Saturday only)
:: :: ::
:: :: :: 9/1 Windjammers 9/1; barbeque.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: or
:: :: ::
:: :: :: 9/13 East Bay to Estuary doublehanded.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: 10/26 - Great Pumpkin Sunday Only (I put this RYC back
:: :: :: in to have an October race; but would be fine with
:: :: :: finishing the 2008 LD/Fun series with the Septermber
:: :: :: Races.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: I hope to get some inputs into what I hope is seen as
:: :: :: well though out LD/Fun proposal geared to gain a
:: :: :: consensus within the innovative frameowrk of the
:: :: :: proposal.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: mb.
:: :: ::
:: :: ::
:: :: ::
:: :: :: :: With the exception of the long pause after Nationals, I
:: :: :: :: kinda liked the variety of races on this year's regular
:: :: :: :: schedule. I also liked that half the races counted for
:: :: :: :: both series. For myself, it'll be a few seasons before I
:: :: :: :: can return to a full weekend of racing, so it's nice to
:: :: :: :: see a large contingent of Expresses in the PHRF/L.D.
:: :: :: :: events. Hopefully, that will be the same even if we go
:: :: :: :: to a smaller number of mostly buoy events for the
:: :: :: :: regular schedule.
:: :: :: ::
:: :: :: :: :: I agree with this completely. I would only add the Ditch
:: :: :: :: :: run in June as it is a well attended event and lots of
:: :: :: :: :: fun.
:: :: :: :: ::
:: :: :: :: :: -Jason
:: :: :: :: ::
:: :: :: :: :: :: Perhaps something along these lines:
:: :: :: :: :: ::
:: :: :: :: :: :: - Three Bridge Fiasco (January)
:: :: :: :: :: :: - Spring Keel (March)
:: :: :: :: :: :: - Resin Regatta (April)
:: :: :: :: :: :: - Elite Keel (May)
:: :: :: :: :: :: - PCCs (July)
:: :: :: :: :: :: - Nationals (September)
:: :: :: :: :: ::
