Express 27 National Championship at San Francisco Yacht ClubOctober 5 - 7
Result
PosBoatTotalRace 1Race 2Race 3Race 4Race 5Race 6Race 7
1Magic Bus283(3)5(8)6(14)2(16)1(17)1(18)10 (28)
2Motorcycle Irene292(2)2(4)14(18)1(19)7(26)2(28)1 (29)
3Get Happy!!344(4)3(7)11(18)5(23)3(26)6(32)2 (34)
4Thumper3711(11)1(12)2(14)9(23)4(27)5(32)5 (37)
5Fired Up!421(1)4(5)8(13)8(21)5(26)10(36)6 (42)
6Current Affair5112(12)6(18)10(28)3(31)13(44)4(48)3 (51)
7Tequila Mockingbird625(5)7(12)17(29)4(33)2(35)14(49)13 (62)
8Andale627(7)10(17)3(20)12(32)11(43)7(50)12 (62)
9Abigail Morgan6413(13)13(26)1(27)6(33)9(42)11(53)11 (64)
10Wile E Coyote686(6)9(15)7(22)OCS(40)RET(58)3(61)7 (68)
11Salty Hotel719(9)8(17)4(21)11(32)10(42)12(54)17 (71)
12X-Wing7610(10)14(24)13(37)14(51)8(59)9(68)8 (76)
13Bombora8316(16)15(31)15(46)10(56)15(71)8(79)4 (83)
14Peaches8714(14)12(26)16(42)7(49)6(55)17(72)15 (87)
15Take Five908(8)11(19)9(28)16(44)16(60)16(76)14 (90)
16Artemis9417(17)16(33)5(38)13(51)14(65)13(78)16 (94)
17Hang 209515(15)17(32)12(44)15(59)12(71)15(86)9 (95)
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Author: Ralph Deeds
Subject: Crew Weight Change
Info: (20793 views) Posted: Tuesday 12-18-07 07:09:02 AM
My recollection is that originally there was no National Class crew weight limit, and some boats were sailing with 1100 pounds. After our first year in Detroit when a boatload of heavyweights ran away with the season championship, our fleet adopted a 750 pound limit. Later, with Carl Schumacher's support the National Class adopted the 880 pound limit which is the same as the J24 Class weight limit. I don't believe it's accurate to say that Carl designed the boat for a 1000 pound crew weight. His intent was to design a light boat that could be powered with small sails and sailed with a four or five person crew including women and children.

In my opinion, a better way to go would be to drop the 150 % genoa and allow instead two non-overlapping headsails--One small #3 for heavy air and another more powerful, but non-overlapping jib for light air. This would make the boat much more fun to sail. There's nothing I enjoy less about the boat than sailing it above 12 knots with the #1. Nearly all of the newer, popular classes and designs have fractional rigs and non-overlapping jibs.

:: I will weight in here for a bit (pun intended). I am in
:: favor of a change in crew weight limit up to 1000 lbs.
:: as that was the original crew weight Carl designed the
:: boat to carry. Not being a mathematician I will not
:: attempt to argue numbers except to say that the
:: difference of 100 lbs. that Mike speaks of does not seem
:: to me to be such an additional stress on the boat, but a
:: lot less stress on the skipper to put a crew together
:: consistently. I am still having a very difficult time
:: picking up the diehard logic of the crew weight needing
:: to be 880 lbs. I have never seen nor heard any logic for
:: that particular number. It seems to me that Mike's
:: number of 980 lbs. is at best reasonable and at least
:: based upon some use of arithmetic. I second Mike's
:: motion to change the crew weight to 980 lbs.
::
:: Does this motion have any standing, anyway. If so, let's
:: vote on it.

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