Express 27 National Championship at San Francisco Yacht ClubOctober 5 - 7
Result
PosBoatTotalRace 1Race 2Race 3Race 4Race 5Race 6Race 7
1Magic Bus283(3)5(8)6(14)2(16)1(17)1(18)10 (28)
2Motorcycle Irene292(2)2(4)14(18)1(19)7(26)2(28)1 (29)
3Get Happy!!344(4)3(7)11(18)5(23)3(26)6(32)2 (34)
4Thumper3711(11)1(12)2(14)9(23)4(27)5(32)5 (37)
5Fired Up!421(1)4(5)8(13)8(21)5(26)10(36)6 (42)
6Current Affair5112(12)6(18)10(28)3(31)13(44)4(48)3 (51)
7Tequila Mockingbird625(5)7(12)17(29)4(33)2(35)14(49)13 (62)
8Andale627(7)10(17)3(20)12(32)11(43)7(50)12 (62)
9Abigail Morgan6413(13)13(26)1(27)6(33)9(42)11(53)11 (64)
10Wile E Coyote686(6)9(15)7(22)OCS(40)RET(58)3(61)7 (68)
11Salty Hotel719(9)8(17)4(21)11(32)10(42)12(54)17 (71)
12X-Wing7610(10)14(24)13(37)14(51)8(59)9(68)8 (76)
13Bombora8316(16)15(31)15(46)10(56)15(71)8(79)4 (83)
14Peaches8714(14)12(26)16(42)7(49)6(55)17(72)15 (87)
15Take Five908(8)11(19)9(28)16(44)16(60)16(76)14 (90)
16Artemis9417(17)16(33)5(38)13(51)14(65)13(78)16 (94)
17Hang 209515(15)17(32)12(44)15(59)12(71)15(86)9 (95)
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Author: Larry Levit
Subject: Weight Limit
Info: (20719 views) Posted: Sunday 9-16-07 09:56:13 PM
actually the rule was in place but I found the solution to be to sail with 4 on several occasions. I got beat up and came to the realization that it is not worth it and I will not sail with 4 in heavy air again. I recoiled at the suggestion of having someone else sail my boat. Not reasonable.

You actually proposed something which would work but has no physical significance. It is easy enough to compute a righting moment based calculation which I can do as soon as I measure the beam of the boat at crew point and at helmsman point. I think you will not be far off. First estimate is that your 0.4 coef should be 0.5. I will make accurate measurements and get back.

:: We all want you to sail your boat, not sell it. But,
:: your argument below is illogical on many levels --
:: primarily though, because it is you that proposes to
:: change a rule, a rule that (I believe) was in place when
:: you joined the class.
::
:: Judging from the responses on this thread, I suspect the
:: only solution with any viability would be one that
:: essentially keeps the existing 880lb limit but adjusts
:: it slightly to compensate for differences in righting
:: moment based on the weight of the driver. If you want to
:: research the physics behind that and write up a
:: proposal, I'm sure it could be put to a vote.
::
::
:: :: OK guys, I have been thinking about the comment someone
:: :: made about getting someone else to drive the boat when
:: :: the driver is heavy in order to get more weight on the
:: :: rail. That suggests I give my boat away. The alternative
:: :: is a MINIMUM driver weight and if you weigh less, either
:: :: bulk up or give your boat away to someone heavier. It
:: :: makes about as much sense as my giving away my boat. I
:: :: have done too many regattas with 4 to make weight over
:: :: the years to ever do it again. Superscillious- yes. but
:: :: I hope I make the point that giving away to boat does
:: :: not make any more sense than racing with 4.
:: ::
:: :: L2

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