National Championship at Richmond Yacht ClubSeptember 28 - 30
Result
PosBoatTotalRace 1Race 2Race 3Race 4Race 5
1Shenanigans102(2)3(5)1(6)2(8)2 (10)
2Wile E Coyote173(3)1(4)3(7)6(13)4 (17)
3El Raton231(1)5(6)8(14)1(15)8 (23)
4Get Happy234(4)4(8)5(13)4(17)6 (23)
5Freaks ona Leash285(5)7(12)6(18)7(25)3 (28)
6Peaches367(7)8(15)4(19)3(22)14 (36)
7Magic Bus406(6)2(8)7(15)OCS(39)1 (40)
8Motorcycle Irene4810(10)DNC(34)2(36)5(41)7 (48)
9Ergo498(8)14(22)12(34)10(44)5 (49)
10Opa!579(9)6(15)OCS(39)8(47)10 (57)
11Monster Express5713(13)9(22)11(33)12(45)12 (57)
12Dianne5711(11)15(26)9(35)9(44)13 (57)
13Great White5918(18)11(29)10(39)11(50)9 (59)
14Take Five7015(15)10(25)14(39)13(52)18 (70)
15Libra7314(14)13(27)15(42)16(58)15 (73)
16Fired Up!7619(19)18(37)13(50)15(65)11 (76)
17Elise8112(12)12(24)17(41)DNF(65)16 (81)
18Wetsu8216(16)16(32)16(48)17(65)17 (82)
19Bobs8920(20)20(40)21(61)OCS(85)DNC (109)
20Archimedes9517(17)17(34)18(52)DNF(76)19 (95)
21Chile Dog97DNF(24)19(43)19(62)14(76)21 (97)
22Summer Palace10621(21)21(42)20(62)DNC(86)20 (106)
23Witchy Woman120DNC(24)DNC(48)DNC(72)DNC(96)DNC(120)
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Author: Marcia
Subject: Mainsail Cloth Weight Class Restriction?
Info: (11957 views) Posted: Saturday 8-7-10 09:40:58 AM
Thanks for the explanations. It helps understand the perspective.

:: I agree that 16# mainsail weight results in a solid if
:: not overbult fiber laminate. And I like that.
::
:: I bitched and moaned w/the 1st 3DL, and last, I ever
:: bought. Instead of the added fiber weight distributed as
:: structure into the total sail, I ended up with an
:: overbuilt dacron foot patch to make up for the weight.
::
:: Later, I was told, I could have payed more for the added
:: fiber distributed as load paths throughout the sail.
:: Things have improved since 1996.
::
:: mb
::
:: :: The sail weight limit is still in effect. Probably it is
:: :: left over from all-dacron days (to prevent building very
:: :: light sails that would need yearly replacing), but it
:: :: has not been changed and should still be obeyed.
:: ::
:: :: This weight requirement results in very strong laminate
:: :: sails, as they can put a lot of carbon in to meet the
:: :: weight. The local sailmakers all know how to build sails
:: :: to the E27 class rules. It is true that they likely have
:: :: to add materials specifically to meet the rule.
:: ::
:: :: Modifying and/or removing the sail weight limit would
:: :: require a vote at the class meeting.
:: ::
:: :: A few rules have been changed recently and may not be
:: :: updated in the class rules: dyform wire is allowed in
:: :: rigging (even in 1x7 sizes) where 1x19 wire was required
:: :: previously. However dyform is not manufactured anymore
:: :: and hard to find. Spectra is allowed for lifelines as
:: :: long as the sag rule is still obeyed. The remainder of
:: :: the rules are generally accepted without discussion
:: :: (except the crew weight limit), as a general methodology
:: :: to keep costs under control and to keep the boats equal.
:: ::
:: :: If you have any class rule or measurement questions,
:: :: feel free to send them to me directly (not headed to HI
:: :: this summer).
:: ::

:: :: --brendan
:: ::
:: ::
:: ::
:: ::
:: :: :: Is this really a class rule?
:: :: ::
:: :: :: I'm not sure I'm reading this correctly, as it looks
:: :: :: like it was promulgated by a sailmaker who didn't want
:: :: :: to upgrade their sail making equipment.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: Class restriction on the minimum weight of the mainsail
:: :: :: to 16 LB:
:: :: ::
:: :: :: “Total weight of the mainsail shall be no less than
:: :: :: sixteen pounds weighed dry and without battens. Cloth
:: :: :: concentrations used to bring the sail to minimum weight
:: :: :: shall be defined as excessively heavy sailmaker's
:: :: :: hardware. It is the intent of this rule to prohibit
:: :: :: excessively light mainsail cloth weights.”
:: :: ::
:: :: :: Why don't we want excessively light mainsail cloth
:: :: :: weights? Perhaps we need to define "excessively light",
:: :: :: because, dollars-to-donuts, with advances in sail cloth,
:: :: :: I would bet any boat without a dacron main can't meet
:: :: :: the rule limitation.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: There are other limitations too that seem a tad
:: :: :: outdated. Is the class going to be looking at these
:: :: :: anytime soon?
:: :: ::
:: :: :: Sincerely,
:: :: ::
:: :: :: Marcia Schnapp
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