National Championship at Richmond Yacht ClubSeptember 28 - 30
Result
PosBoatTotalRace 1Race 2Race 3Race 4Race 5
1Shenanigans102(2)3(5)1(6)2(8)2 (10)
2Wile E Coyote173(3)1(4)3(7)6(13)4 (17)
3El Raton231(1)5(6)8(14)1(15)8 (23)
4Get Happy234(4)4(8)5(13)4(17)6 (23)
5Freaks ona Leash285(5)7(12)6(18)7(25)3 (28)
6Peaches367(7)8(15)4(19)3(22)14 (36)
7Magic Bus406(6)2(8)7(15)OCS(39)1 (40)
8Motorcycle Irene4810(10)DNC(34)2(36)5(41)7 (48)
9Ergo498(8)14(22)12(34)10(44)5 (49)
10Opa!579(9)6(15)OCS(39)8(47)10 (57)
11Monster Express5713(13)9(22)11(33)12(45)12 (57)
12Dianne5711(11)15(26)9(35)9(44)13 (57)
13Great White5918(18)11(29)10(39)11(50)9 (59)
14Take Five7015(15)10(25)14(39)13(52)18 (70)
15Libra7314(14)13(27)15(42)16(58)15 (73)
16Fired Up!7619(19)18(37)13(50)15(65)11 (76)
17Elise8112(12)12(24)17(41)DNF(65)16 (81)
18Wetsu8216(16)16(32)16(48)17(65)17 (82)
19Bobs8920(20)20(40)21(61)OCS(85)DNC (109)
20Archimedes9517(17)17(34)18(52)DNF(76)19 (95)
21Chile Dog97DNF(24)19(43)19(62)14(76)21 (97)
22Summer Palace10621(21)21(42)20(62)DNC(86)20 (106)
23Witchy Woman120DNC(24)DNC(48)DNC(72)DNC(96)DNC(120)
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Author: Ralph Deeds
Subject: Crew Weight Change
Info: (20459 views) Posted: Tuesday 12-18-07 07:09:02 AM
My recollection is that originally there was no National Class crew weight limit, and some boats were sailing with 1100 pounds. After our first year in Detroit when a boatload of heavyweights ran away with the season championship, our fleet adopted a 750 pound limit. Later, with Carl Schumacher's support the National Class adopted the 880 pound limit which is the same as the J24 Class weight limit. I don't believe it's accurate to say that Carl designed the boat for a 1000 pound crew weight. His intent was to design a light boat that could be powered with small sails and sailed with a four or five person crew including women and children.

In my opinion, a better way to go would be to drop the 150 % genoa and allow instead two non-overlapping headsails--One small #3 for heavy air and another more powerful, but non-overlapping jib for light air. This would make the boat much more fun to sail. There's nothing I enjoy less about the boat than sailing it above 12 knots with the #1. Nearly all of the newer, popular classes and designs have fractional rigs and non-overlapping jibs.

:: I will weight in here for a bit (pun intended). I am in
:: favor of a change in crew weight limit up to 1000 lbs.
:: as that was the original crew weight Carl designed the
:: boat to carry. Not being a mathematician I will not
:: attempt to argue numbers except to say that the
:: difference of 100 lbs. that Mike speaks of does not seem
:: to me to be such an additional stress on the boat, but a
:: lot less stress on the skipper to put a crew together
:: consistently. I am still having a very difficult time
:: picking up the diehard logic of the crew weight needing
:: to be 880 lbs. I have never seen nor heard any logic for
:: that particular number. It seems to me that Mike's
:: number of 980 lbs. is at best reasonable and at least
:: based upon some use of arithmetic. I second Mike's
:: motion to change the crew weight to 980 lbs.
::
:: Does this motion have any standing, anyway. If so, let's
:: vote on it.

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