Delta Ditch Run at Stockton Sailing Club/Richmond Yacht ClubJune 2
Story
Norcalsailing report featuring Summer Palace:
http://www.norcalsailing.com/entries/2012/06/05/ditchrun2.html#.T-iWoI2Mfqs

Below quoted from Pressure Drop: Drew Scott was helming a F-28.

"My crew is starting to swing around to pick me up when El Raton, in perfect control slides up beside me and asks if I would like to get picked up. They had already doused their chute and stopped beside me. I took their offer and got back into a boat (trying to stop a lightweight trimaran next to someone when it is blowing in the mid-20s is not easy so I figured I would not turn down El Raton.

My crew ably finished the race on Papillon, only one boat behind El Raton! And I had many adventures with El Raton, but that is their story to tell.

So, a great big thank you to the Ray Lotto and the crew of El Raton for pulling my soggy hide out of Suisun Bay!!

Drew Scott
Papillon (most of the time)"
Result
PosBoatTotalRace 1
1El Raton11
2Magic Bus22
3Peaches33
4Scandalous44
5Wile E Coyote55
6Loose Cannon66
7Take Five77
8Ergo88
9Great White99
10Libra1010
11Summer Palace1111
export csv

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Author: Chris Gage
Subject: Weight Limit
Info: (20494 views) Posted: Wednesday 8-29-07 09:29:32 AM
LEAVE THE WEIGHT LIMIT ALONE>>>> PLEASE 880 lb IS IDEAL!..

:: As an ergonomist, I get to paid to watch how peoples
:: anthropometrics affect their physical job performance.
:: Despite emphasis and support on healthy lifestyles,
:: there a number of factors that can weigh them down,
:: e.g., personal/social habits, genetics, and/or age. As
:: Americans and other Countries develop, their average
:: weight goes up too. So do we put a foot down or
:: accommodate?
::
:: Personally, I can tolerate or live with the 880 lbs, but
:: that's me. I would like to hear about the pros and cons
:: on bumping up the weight limit a tad - 900 lbs. I would
:: still be motivated to lose 20 lbs to help get heavier
:: crew on the rail.
::
:: Joe B.
::
:: :: I don't really know the history of the weight limit, but
:: :: the current 880 limit is just slightly below 5x the
:: :: median weight of an adult male (and probably was at the
:: :: median when it was enacted). Wherever you set the limit,
:: :: most boats are going to have to look around a little to
:: :: find that 5th person that gets them in the right range.
:: ::
:: :: I prefer the lower limit because:
:: ::
:: :: a) 6 people on an Express 27 is a crowd
::
:: :: b) 1000 pounds on the rail will put more strain on the
:: :: boat (imagine regularly carrying the #1 up to 17 or 18
:: :: knots)
:: ::
:: :: That said, I think that small drivers do have a bit of
:: :: an advantage and can feel Larry's pain. However, driver
:: :: weight is an even bigger factor in many other small
:: :: light keelboat classes (and virtually every dinghy
:: :: class). I'm not sure that's its worth complicating
:: :: things significantly in order to try balance out the
:: :: advantage.
:: ::
:: ::
:: :: :: Please correct me if I am in error, but wasn't the
:: :: :: original crew weight 1000#? And was this not designated
:: :: :: by the designer himself? Is it is too simple to go back
:: :: :: to the original weight limit before other interests were
:: :: :: involved and caused it to change to 880#? I have been
:: :: :: told by more than one person that the change to 880# was
:: :: :: due to the complaints that smaller crew were not able to
:: :: :: get on crews. If, in fact, true that would mean it was a
:: :: :: political change and not mechanically nor structurally
:: :: :: motivated or, perhaps, even needed.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: I agree with Larry and Mike that it is very difficult to
:: :: :: find the balance at the current weight limit. I had to
:: :: :: eliminate one of my crew to make weight this last
:: :: :: Nationals and boy did we pay for it.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: I stayed out of the discussion as you were all doing
:: :: :: such a wonderful job of covering the points, but when
:: :: :: someone said that there were only a few concerned
:: :: :: (complaining) I had to chime in. I am for a change back
:: :: :: to the original weight limit of 1000#.

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