Berkeley Mid Winter #2 at Berkeley Yacht ClubDecember 11
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2Motorcycle Irene22
3El Raton33
4Opa!44
5Peaches55
6Wetsu66
7Elise77
8Great White88
9Take Five99
10Dianne1010
11Discotheque1111
12Wile E Coyote1212
13Luffing Outloud1313
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15Magic1515
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17Ergo1717
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Author: Mike Bruzzone
Subject: Crew Weight
Info: (16989 views) Posted: Monday 7-29-13 11:15:45 PM
The reason the e27 weight limit was enacted was to discriminate against Jeff Madrigali and the potential of Jeff Thorpe.

The lmit was enacted at 1000# and reduced to 880# as lite weights realized they could systematiclly discriminate against a statisticaly relevant percentage of the sailing population to maintain certain leading advantages.

The situation has worsened as this caste has coalesced into a three boat core with four or so other boats simply accepting the situation on the hassles it presents to change.

This core of boats cares very little about expanding participation or would have done so long ago. Instead limiting on all the old tales.

Mean while a whole new set of rules, some that are illegal, have been adopted by this core to lighten their boats that don;t get policed.

Other's knowing do the same preseting this inew precedent that is not being addressed.

Lite weights and lite boats are fast but statistically discriminate against the total population.

The ideal crew weight limit for e27 is 1035 to 1050#s.

On Summer Sailstice with 1140# of crew in #3 moving to #4 conditons Desperado was as fast as Olsen 911s up wind in ebb.

I'm not advocating 1140, but the boats are sure fun to sail when they are not restrained from their potentials.

mb.

:: Sergey,

:: We can add it as one of the agenda items for the annual
:: meeting.

:: The J/105 is a very different boat than the e27 and
:: sails very differently. There were reasons the weight
:: limit is as it is. Let's look at the history before we
:: attempt to motion for a change.
::
:: :: Peggy,
:: ::
:: :: I would like to put this motion for the national's fleet
:: :: meeting agenda. This is the modified for the express27
:: :: weight limit J105 fleet rule which is much more flexible
:: :: and should meet everyone needs.
:: ::

:: :: -------------------------------------------------
:: ::
:: :: The maximum crew weight (in swimming apparel) for
:: :: one-design racing is 880 with
::
:: :: no limit on numbers of crew. An Owner who is the sole
:: :: Driver for a regatta may elect a weight of 100 kg (220
:: :: lbs.) for that regatta, in which case he or she shall
:: :: not be subject to weigh-in or other weight check. If the
:: :: sailing instructions require a weigh-in prior to the
:: :: start of a regatta, a boat complying with the weight
:: :: restrictions at weigh-in shall not otherwise be subject
:: :: to a weigh-in during or after the regatta, except for
:: :: weighing substitute crew.
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