Delta Ditch Run @ Stockton Sailing Club/Richmond Yacht Club (2010) - Express 27

Delta Ditch Run at Stockton Sailing Club/Richmond Yacht Club

June 12

Story

Congratulations to Get Happy!!
Recap by Brendan Busch

Aerial Photos by H20 Shots

Result

Pos	Boat	Total	Race 1
1	Get Happy!!	1	1
2	Magic Bus	2	2
3	Shenanigans	3	3
4	Light'n Up	4	4
5	Discotheque	5	5
6	Dianne	6	6
7	Take Five	7	7
8	Opa!	8	8
9	Peaches	9	9
10	Desperado	10	10
11	Libra	11	DNF
11	El Raton	11	DNF
11	Archimedes	11	DNF
11	Expressway	11	DNF
11	Scandalous	11	DNF
11	Elise	11	DNS

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Author: Mike Bruzzone ([email protected]) contact the author
Subject: Oh,?, why is scoring 2nd silly?
Info: (24221 views) Posted: Saturday 12-6-08 05:04:12 PM

Hi Bob:

One question. Why in a low point system is scoring the second place boat 2nd silly? Appears on the surfance to be level method across a series. Where and how does this system fail to encourage series participation?

Thanks, mb

:: Hi Bob:
::
:: Thanks for the inputs on scoring systems aimed at
:: participation in mind.
::
:: So for the current system, add more F/LD Series throw
:: outs into the schedule to encourage more participants
:: across the series.
::
:: Want to say anything more on High Point? Seeems more
:: complicated?
::
:: mb
::
:: :: No dog in this hunt, but.......
:: ::
:: :: Low Point scoring is inherently unfair in series made up
:: :: of different events. Scoring the second place boat "2"
:: :: whether there's two or ten boats is silly.
:: ::
:: :: I think your current system is a Cox-Sprauge derivative.
:: :: It's very fair, and if you want to require more
:: :: participation, just state a higher number of required
:: :: races to count.
:: ::
:: :: Another scoring method which works is high point, with a
:: :: set high point race value (say each race is worth 20
:: :: points). The winner is going to get twenty no matter how
:: :: many boats are racing. A boats score is ((the number of
:: :: boats beaten plus one) divided by (the number of boats
:: :: racing)) times (the race value).
:: ::
:: :: Unless you're very certain that you'll get a consistent
:: :: number of boats at each event in the series, low point
:: :: will discourage participation.
:: ::
:: :: Bob
:: ::
:: :: :: 2) In response to your post on e27 scoring system vs.
:: :: :: low point. Environmentally the current scoring method
:: :: :: for the F/LD series, consistently demonstrates that a
:: :: :: boat can win the series by sailing the minimum (four
:: :: :: this year) most attended F/LD events. And this has been
:: :: :: true since the F/LD seriies started. This is the
:: :: :: annomalous worm hole I'd like to regulate against. So,
:: :: :: I've proposed a low point scoring system for F/LD only
:: :: :: as one strategy to close this jump gate.

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:: Hi Bob: 
:: 
:: One question. Why in a low point system is scoring the
:: second place boat 2nd silly? Appears on the surfance to
:: be level method across a series. Where and how does this
:: system fail to encourage series participation? 
:: 
:: Thanks,

:: mb 
:: 
:: :: Hi Bob: 
:: :: 
:: :: Thanks for the inputs on scoring systems aimed at
:: :: participation in mind. 
:: :: 
:: :: So for the current system, add more F/LD Series throw
:: :: outs into the schedule to encourage more participants
:: :: across the series. 
:: :: 
:: :: Want to say anything more on High Point? Seeems more
:: :: complicated? 
:: :: 
:: :: mb 
:: :: 
:: :: :: No dog in this hunt, but....... 
:: :: :: 
:: :: :: Low Point scoring is inherently unfair in series made up
:: :: :: of different events. Scoring the second place boat "2"
:: :: :: whether there's two or ten boats is silly. 
:: :: :: 
:: :: :: I think your current system is a Cox-Sprauge derivative.
:: :: :: It's very fair, and if you want to require more
:: :: :: participation, just state a higher number of required
:: :: :: races to count. 
:: :: :: 
:: :: :: Another scoring method which works is high point, with a
:: :: :: set high point race value (say each race is worth 20
:: :: :: points). The winner is going to get twenty no matter how
:: :: :: many boats are racing. A boats score is ((the number of
:: :: :: boats beaten plus one) divided by (the number of boats
:: :: :: racing)) times (the race value). 
:: :: :: 
:: :: :: Unless you're very certain that you'll get a consistent
:: :: :: number of boats at each event in the series, low point
:: :: :: will discourage participation. 
:: :: :: 
:: :: :: Bob 
:: :: :: 
:: :: :: :: 2) In response to your post on e27 scoring system vs.
:: :: :: :: low point. Environmentally the current scoring method
:: :: :: :: for the F/LD series, consistently demonstrates that a
:: :: :: :: boat can win the series by sailing the minimum (four
:: :: :: :: this year) most attended F/LD events. And this has been
:: :: :: :: true since the F/LD seriies started. This is the
:: :: :: :: annomalous worm hole I'd like to regulate against. So,
:: :: :: :: I've proposed a low point scoring system for F/LD only
:: :: :: :: as one strategy to close this jump gate.