Larry,

You are welcome to the fleet meeting, please pay your Fleet Dues so you will be able to participate.

Regards, Peggy.

:: I am not doing the nationals because of the crew weight
:: limitation. I have worked hard to get down to 235 pounds
:: for a year and I am not getting any lighter even with
:: diet and exercise. It was suggested that the crew weight
:: limit is good for my health as it will force me to loose
:: weight. That is just infuriating.
::
:: It is hard for me to find a total crew light enough to
:: get me under the limit. That means 160 pounds each. It
:: has been suggested that I just sail with 4. Not going to
:: happen on SF Bay.
::
:: Given my size, I am very limited in the amount of
:: moveable human ballast that I can bring to right the
:: boat in a blow and as helmsman, I cannot hike so I am a
:: liability in that regard.
::
:: I do not think that the helmsman's weight should be
:: counted in the same way as the rest of the crew. That is
:: simple physics.
::
:: I would support a 700 pound weight for the crew
:: exclusive of the helmsman or a 825 pound limit with half
:: the weight of the helmsman included.
::
:: I will try to come to the fleet meeting if the subject
:: will be on the agenda but failing that, enjoy the
:: nationals.
::
:: Larry
::
:: Larry
::
:: :: The reason the e27 weight limit was enacted was to
:: :: discriminate against Jeff Madrigali and the potential of
:: :: Jeff Thorpe.
:: ::
:: :: The lmit was enacted at 1000# and reduced to 880# as
:: :: lite weights realized they could systematiclly
:: :: discriminate against a statisticaly relevant percentage
:: :: of the sailing population to maintain certain leading
:: :: advantages.
:: ::
:: :: The situation has worsened as this caste has coalesced
:: :: into a three boat core with four or so other boats
:: :: simply accepting the situation on the hassles it
:: :: presents to change.
:: ::
:: :: This core of boats cares very little about expanding
:: :: participation or would have done so long ago. Instead
:: :: limiting on all the old tales.
:: ::
:: :: Mean while a whole new set of rules, some that are
:: :: illegal, have been adopted by this core to lighten their
:: :: boats that don;t get policed.
:: ::
:: :: Other's knowing do the same preseting this inew
:: :: precedent that is not being addressed.
:: ::
:: :: Lite weights and lite boats are fast but statistically
:: :: discriminate against the total population.
:: ::
:: :: The ideal crew weight limit for e27 is 1035 to 1050#s.
:: ::
:: :: On Summer Sailstice with 1140# of crew in #3 moving to
:: :: #4 conditons Desperado was as fast as Olsen 911s up wind
:: :: in ebb.
:: ::
:: :: I'm not advocating 1140, but the boats are sure fun to
:: :: sail when they are not restrained from their potentials.
:: ::
:: :: mb.
:: ::
:: ::
:: ::
:: ::
:: :: :: Sergey,
:: ::
:: ::
:: :: :: We can add it as one of the agenda items for the annual
:: :: :: meeting.
:: ::
:: :: :: The J/105 is a very different boat than the e27 and
:: :: :: sails very differently. There were reasons the weight
:: :: :: limit is as it is. Let's look at the history before we
:: :: :: attempt to motion for a change.
:: :: ::
:: :: :: :: Peggy,
:: :: :: ::
:: :: :: :: I would like to put this motion for the national's fleet
:: :: :: :: meeting agenda. This is the modified for the express27
:: :: :: :: weight limit J105 fleet rule which is much more flexible
:: :: :: :: and should meet everyone needs.
:: :: :: ::

:: :: :: :: -------------------------------------------------

:: :: :: ::
:: :: :: :: The maximum crew weight (in swimming apparel) for
:: :: :: :: one-design racing is 880 with
:: :: ::
:: :: :: :: no limit on numbers of crew. An Owner who is the sole
:: :: :: :: Driver for a regatta may elect a weight of 100 kg (220
:: :: :: :: lbs.) for that regatta, in which case he or she shall
:: :: :: :: not be subject to weigh-in or other weight check. If the
:: :: :: :: sailing instructions require a weigh-in prior to the
:: :: :: :: start of a regatta, a boat complying with the weight
:: :: :: :: restrictions at weigh-in shall not otherwise be subject
:: :: :: :: to a weigh-in during or after the regatta, except for
:: :: :: :: weighing substitute crew.