I am not doing the nationals because of the crew weight limitation. I have worked hard to get down to 235 pounds for a year and I am not getting any lighter even with diet and exercise. It was suggested that the crew weight limit is good for my health as it will force me to loose weight. That is just infuriating.

It is hard for me to find a total crew light enough to get me under the limit. That means 160 pounds each. It has been suggested that I just sail with 4. Not going to happen on SF Bay.

Given my size, I am very limited in the amount of moveable human ballast that I can bring to right the boat in a blow and as helmsman, I cannot hike so I am a liability in that regard.

I do not think that the helmsman's weight should be counted in the same way as the rest of the crew. That is simple physics.

I would support a 700 pound weight for the crew exclusive of the helmsman or a 825 pound limit with half the weight of the helmsman included.

I will try to come to the fleet meeting if the subject will be on the agenda but failing that, enjoy the nationals.

Larry

Larry

:: The reason the e27 weight limit was enacted was to
:: discriminate against Jeff Madrigali and the potential of
:: Jeff Thorpe.
::
:: The lmit was enacted at 1000# and reduced to 880# as
:: lite weights realized they could systematiclly
:: discriminate against a statisticaly relevant percentage
:: of the sailing population to maintain certain leading
:: advantages.
::
:: The situation has worsened as this caste has coalesced
:: into a three boat core with four or so other boats
:: simply accepting the situation on the hassles it
:: presents to change.
::
:: This core of boats cares very little about expanding
:: participation or would have done so long ago. Instead
:: limiting on all the old tales.
::
:: Mean while a whole new set of rules, some that are
:: illegal, have been adopted by this core to lighten their
:: boats that don;t get policed.
::
:: Other's knowing do the same preseting this inew
:: precedent that is not being addressed.
::
:: Lite weights and lite boats are fast but statistically
:: discriminate against the total population.
::
:: The ideal crew weight limit for e27 is 1035 to 1050#s.
::
:: On Summer Sailstice with 1140# of crew in #3 moving to
:: #4 conditons Desperado was as fast as Olsen 911s up wind
:: in ebb.
::
:: I'm not advocating 1140, but the boats are sure fun to
:: sail when they are not restrained from their potentials.
::
:: mb.
::
::
::
::
:: :: Sergey,
::
::
:: :: We can add it as one of the agenda items for the annual
:: :: meeting.
::
:: :: The J/105 is a very different boat than the e27 and
:: :: sails very differently. There were reasons the weight
:: :: limit is as it is. Let's look at the history before we
:: :: attempt to motion for a change.
:: ::
:: :: :: Peggy,
:: :: ::
:: :: :: I would like to put this motion for the national's fleet
:: :: :: meeting agenda. This is the modified for the express27
:: :: :: weight limit J105 fleet rule which is much more flexible
:: :: :: and should meet everyone needs.
:: :: ::

:: :: :: -------------------------------------------------

:: :: ::
:: :: :: The maximum crew weight (in swimming apparel) for
:: :: :: one-design racing is 880 with
:: ::
:: :: :: no limit on numbers of crew. An Owner who is the sole
:: :: :: Driver for a regatta may elect a weight of 100 kg (220
:: :: :: lbs.) for that regatta, in which case he or she shall
:: :: :: not be subject to weigh-in or other weight check. If the
:: :: :: sailing instructions require a weigh-in prior to the
:: :: :: start of a regatta, a boat complying with the weight
:: :: :: restrictions at weigh-in shall not otherwise be subject
:: :: :: to a weigh-in during or after the regatta, except for
:: :: :: weighing substitute crew.